Listen to MP3 (0:13:17)
Listen to OGG (0:13:17)
Gunnar Hellekson: Thanks Gordon, it's great to be here.
Gordon: One of the ways I look at platform as a service, OpenShift, is this really nice abstraction layer, in that it keeps the stuff the developers care about separate from the things that the operations, the architects, arguably even the procurement people care about. That kind of, I don't know, firewall or level of abstraction or the wall between those can sometimes be very useful.
Gordon: In a way I think this is a little bit funny, of course, because a lot of the early talk around PaaS, particularly the online services, were around this whole idea of DevOps and you didn't need to separate the responsibilities. You look at something like Netflix and you don't really have much in the way of dedicated, separate operations staff. Here we are with PaaS and the government really being used because it can, if you want it to, on an on‑premises solution like OpenShift Enterprise, really can actually enforce those differences in layers.
Gordon: Maybe you could tell our listeners about some of the new things that Red Hat's doing, or they're coming down the pike?
Gunnar: Yeah, so this is actually exciting news. A lot of people, at least folks in the government space know about this. We are huge supporters of the FIPS process, this is the Federal Information Processing Standard. There's one standard in particular, FIPS 140‑2, which tells everyone how they are supposed to implement cryptography. If I'm trying to keep something secret on a machine, I can't just write any software I want. I have to take that software and have it scrutinized by a third party and make sure that when I say I'm using the SHA‑2 256 algorithm that that's in fact the algorithm that I'm using.
Gordon: That's great, Gunnar. Anything else you'd like to share with our audience?
Gunnar: No, no, this is great. I think that maybe the last thing I'll leave you with is, back in 2008 there was a lot of talk about open government. When the Obama administration came in everyone was talking about open government and how open source could help open government. People were skeptical about it, maybe, and just this week we got two proof points for folks to let them know how successful open source has been in government.
Gunnar: Well thank you Gordon.